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He tries 1,000 ideas a decade & kills nearly all—that's how X built Waymo & Google Brain. | Astro Teller, CEO of Moonshots at X (Alphabet)
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He tries 1,000 ideas a decade & kills nearly all—that's how X built Waymo & Google Brain. | Astro Teller, CEO of Moonshots at X (Alphabet)

Astro has run X, Alphabet's Moonshot Factory, for 16 years. His teams created Waymo, Wing, and Google Brain—by testing over 1,000 ideas a decade and killing nearly all of them. His whole system rests on one uncomfortable rule: celebrate the people who kill their own projects.In this episode, Astro breaks down why you should do the hard thing first, how pre-written kill criteria force intellectual honesty, and why X maximizes learning per dollar instead of progress—and never tracks whose idea it was.Why You Should ListenWhy working on the riskiest part first is the key to testing new ideasHow writing kill criteria a year in advance stops you from running a zombie startup.Why progress doesn't matter when launching a new startup.How to come up with big ideas like Waymo and Wing.Keywords startup podcast, startup podcast for founders, product market fit, finding pmf, Astro Teller, Google X, moonshot factory, Alphabet, Waymo, innovation process, kill criteria, idea validation, deep techChapters00:00:00 Intro00:04:15 Inside Alphabet's Moonshot Factory00:07:22 The Card Counters of Innovation00:14:00 Learning per Dollar, Not Progress00:23:04 Killing Ideas with Testable Hypotheses00:26:34 Train the Monkey First00:35:16 Kill Criteria: A Message to Your Future Self00:41:59 The Moment of True Product Market Fit